"Imagine there's no countries...."
"Imagine there's no countries...."
Date: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:48 PM
JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
by Rob Sanchez
June 20, 2005 No. 1278
Yeah, just imagine if India and the U.S. had no borders with each
other, just imagine if you will. Just imagine how we could share their
filth, hunger, desperate poverty, and their sweatshops. I can imagine
it and so can the Indian writer in the first article below. Although
what he proposes is very bad for our nation I give him credit for
recognizing that the true agenda of the WTO is to break down borders so
that a one-world corporatacracy can be installed.
India has formally filed a complaint with the WTO to stop all U.S.
legislation to limit outsourcing. They have also asked for more market
access for foreign temporary workers. It's not clear whether a deal has
been made to India's satisfaction because the WTO is being secretive
about what is transpiring.
So far the U.S. probably hasn't actually given the Indians what they
want, but that doesn't mean the U.S. trade representative isn't willing
to make a deal with them. It appears that the United States is willing
to make major concessions to India as long as they allow our banks and
financial institutions to set up shop in India. Whatever is decided you
can bet that American workers will not have a voice and whatever
agreement is made will be made in the best interests of the
multi-national corporations that run the WTO.
On Tuesday, the United States submitted a revised offer in
World Trade Organization service negotiations that would lock
in the current access that foreign financial services companies
have in the U.S. market and expand access for foreign firms in
areas such as telecommunications, computer and related services,
higher education and transportation.
The WTO complaint by India has been widely reported in the India press
but it has received very little coverage in the U.S. Apparently the
Michael Jackson trial is far more important than international trade
issues that potentially affect thousands if not millions of American
workers.
An article appeared in the IndiaDaily that is in stark contrast to the
mainstream Indian media. The Indian author actually opposes what India
is trying to do in the WTO. It appears that there is a small group of
Indians that are opposed to the one-world agenda of the corporate
globalists:
The Government of India, especially Mr. Kamal Nath and his
oligarch friends of Indian Business community should stop crying
for help. They have made a lot of money exploiting US and US
workers.
How would India feel if another country sucks out all high paying
jobs from India and round able educated and talented people in
India suffer because of loss of jobs in massive scales?
Articles Used for this Newsletter
http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=10619_0_5_0_C
"Imagine there's no countries...."
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=85127&cat=World
India wants to prevent US ban on outsourcing:-
http://www.siliconindia.com/shownewsdata.asp?newsno=28323&newscat=Technology
India seeks WTO help to prevent outsourcing bans
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/3013.asp
India plans to take US move to ban outsourcing of jobs to World Trade
Organization - India should learn to create domestic jobs and not beg
for US jobs forever
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/06/03/go.india.outsourcing.reut/
India wants WTO pact on outsourcing
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http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=10619_0_5_0_C
"Imagine there's no countries...."
The tech community has done very well with cross-border ideas and
commerce but we need to be vigilant as politicians and bigots threaten
to pollute our global community
Vinnie Mirchandani [Deal Architect, SourcingWorld Partners] | POSTED:
06.05.05 @15:58
Lennons words (even with bad grammar) inspired me to become a
"global citizen". Through my tech career I have been to 40 countries.
Most of us in the tech world are similarly "global" - we use Nokia and
Samsung phones, Microsoft and SAP software, chips from Malaysia and
Taiwan, developers from Israel and India. Last year, AlwaysOns
Innovation Summit was seen live in more than 70 countries.
I am reading the fascinating book, "The world is flat" by the NY Times
journalist Tom Friedman. He suggests that in the last few years,
technology globalization has been far more impactful on the world than
the events of 9/11 and the mess in the Middle East. We in Silicon
Valley, Walldorf, Dailin and our CIOs in Omaha, Rio and Sydney and
other places around the world are the technology "flatteners". Oh, we
compete with each other and I help buyers get better deals from tech
vendors - and many do not like me for that. But we are all part of a
technology community which benefits from cross-border exchange of the
best and brightest individuals, ideas and investments. We have got it
keep it that way because politicians and bigots everywhere are
increasingly trying to mess with our industry.
Take China. David Scott Lewis AO blog on China is a fascinating and
scary one on the direction politicians in China and the West could
swing that country. The Chinese politicians appear stubborn about
everything - textile trade, currency revaluation in spite of large
trade surpluses. Everything to them is a matter of "national
sovereignty". Western politicians, though, know exactly how to rub them
the wrong way. Rumsfeld made sharp comments yesterday about the Chinese
military. Thats a great way to sway them! The tech world needs
Chinas manufacturing efficiencies and highly driven labor force -
lets ignore the politicians and keep talking to Chinese tech
executives and entrepreneurs.
Take India. The Indian government this week sought WTO (World Trade
Organization) help to prevent bans being proposed on outsourcing in
various Western legislative bodies. I am not sure a US Congressman
could tell you the difference between an MSA and an SLA but it does not
stop him from meddling with corporate outsourcing decisions. But how
credible does it sound when the Indian government itself is being
protectionist in other discussions with the WTO about opening up its
own markets to foreign competition?
Take Lou Dobbs on CNN. He was right to bring attention to growing
offshoring 2 years ago - but he keeps going and going. On his portion
of the CNN website he has a long list of companies "exporting US jobs"
as he calls it. But most of those companies also show up as the
strongest in BusinessWeeks annual list of 100 global brands- Coca
Cola, Microsoft, Gillette, Ford, GE and a bunch of other US companies.
They get to be strong global brands by exporting US products. If you
are a CIO at one of these companies you should be allowed to make
technology sourcing decisions in line with the fact that 30, 50, 70% of
your revenues come from outside the US - and not be embarrassed on
national TV for doing so.
Take racial tensions. Most technology companies are multi-cultural. Yet
it is shocking how much we are letting our customers racially taunt and
abuse our call center folks around the globe. There is no excuse - they
can check their accounts or complain on -line or ask to speak to a
supervisor. We should be protecting the "smallest" people in our
industry, not just adoring the ones who make it big.
Reagan had this to say about Washington and its approach to various
industry sectors. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it.
If its stops moving, subsidize it. He could have been referring to the
"logic" politicians use anywhere in the world. Whether you are in
Bangalore, Espoo, or New York lets keep ALL our politicians and
narrow minded folks from screwing up our industry. We need the
technology world to stay "flat" - keep dreaming like Lennon.
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http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=85127&cat=World
India wants to prevent US ban on outsourcing:-
Washington | June 02, 2005 3:39:36 PM IST
India wants a new world trade pact that would prevent the United States
and other countries from taking steps to ban companies from outsourcing
jobs, said Commerce and Industry Minister Kamal Nath.
Proposals in the U.S. Congress in recent years to ban outsourcing have
sent off "alarm bells" in New Delhi, Kamal Nath, on a visit to the US,
said in Washington today.
To prevent those from becoming law, India wants the United States,
which is India's largest client of BPO jobs, not to pursue legislation
preventing companies to move jobs overseas.
"At least, the current position must be bound. And India, having to
face this all the time, I think once, at least every three months,
something appears where some legislation, somebody has moved a bill
suggesting that outsourcing be done away with. That is an area where we
need some reassurance," Nath said.
"Where India's offers are concerned, I did say and I would like to
repeat that, we would ensure that we have much more improved offers,
not just binding the current levels," Kamal Nath said after a speech to
the US-India Business Council.
Washington has already adopted a law that prevents contractors dealing
with government work to move them offshore but that has not made dent
to India's BPO industry as it constitutes only a fraction of the jobs
outsourced.
India's booming technology capital of Bangalore has become a global
symbol for the outsourcing phenomenon, which accounts for at least
one-third of India's $16 billion software and back-office service
outsourcing industry employing more than 900,000 people.
Both countries benefit as U.S. companies can lower their costs by
tapping India's plentiful, well-educated work force, Nath said.
On Tuesday, the United States submitted a revised offer in World Trade
Organization service negotiations that would lock in the current access
that foreign financial services companies have in the U.S. market and
expand access for foreign firms in areas such as telecommunications,
computer and related services, higher education and transportation.
The proposal appeared to be silent on outsourcing, although a spokesman
for the U.S.Trade Representative's office was unable to immediately
confirm that.
The United States did not offer any new market access for foreign
temporary workers-another priority area for India in the WTO services
talks.
The issue is a sensitive one for the United States because many
lawmakers view work visas as a back-door immigration channel and
strongly oppose including any U.S. commitments to increase them as part
of trade pacts.
Nath said India was the future in the current world scenario. "During
the last 14 years a sea-change has taken place. Not only in the world's
perception about India's future, but also in our own perception about
ourselves. The world has acknowledged the arrival of India. We no
longer discuss the future of India. We say the future is India."
According to a report released by United Nations, India is one of the
fastest growing economies of the world.
"If I were to characterize the Indian economy of today by just three
adjectives, I would put it as, India - the fastest growing free-market
democracy," he added.
Nath said India's political relations with its immediate neighbours
including arch-rivals Pakistan and China were improving.
"Political relations with Pakistan are improving. So the whole
political landscape of the future when you see India on the global map
and you are able to look around regionally, you see the road through
Pakistan, you see the road thought Myanmar, you see the old trade route
where Gangtok and Sikkim are very close to Lhasa," he said.
Kamal Nath's visit, part of a series of visits by Indian ministers to
prepare ground for economic engagement of Washington, comes ahead of
Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh's US visit in July.
Prior to Kamal Nath, India's Planning Commission Chairman Dr. Montek
Singh Ahluwalia concluded a meeting of India-US Enegy dialogue with US
Secretary for Energy Dr. Samuel W. Bodman. Both have agreed on
broadening the range of existing energy cooperation between the two
countries as well as develop new avenues of collaboration between India
and the US. (ANI)
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http://www.siliconindia.com/shownewsdata.asp?newsno=28323&newscat=Technology
India seeks WTO help to prevent outsourcing bans
Thursday, June 02, 2005
WASHINGTON:India has sought a new world trade pact that would prevent
the U.S. and other countries from banning companies from outsourcing
jobs, Indian Commerce Minister Kamal Nath said.
Proposals in the U.S. Congress in recent months to ban outsourcing have
sent off "alarm bells" in New Delhi, Nath said.
To prevent those from becoming law, India has asked the U.S. to lock in
current U.S. legislation allowing companies to move jobs offshore as
part of any new world trade agreement, he said.
"We are very concerned with the U.S. binding the current situation
because all these noises just keep coming," Nath said at the U.S. India
Business Council. "(The issue) needs to be once and for all put behind
us."
Concerns about outsourcing are based more "on emotions than economics,"
Nath said. Both countries benefit when U.S. companies can lower their
costs by tapping India's plentiful, well-educated work force, he said.
On Tuesday, the U.S. submitted a amended offer in World Trade
Organization service negotiations that will lock in the current access
that foreign financial services companies have in the U.S. market and
expand access for foreign firms in areas such as telecommunications,
computer and related services, higher education and transportation.
Nath said he had not yet seen the latest U.S. offer, but said the U.S.
would need to provide more short term visas for business travelers as
part of a new world trade pact.
"I'm not talking immigration," but business visits of less than a year
to work on company projects, Nath said.
The issue is a sensitive one for the United States because many
lawmakers view work visas as a back-door immigration channel and
strongly oppose including any U.S. commitments to increase them as part
of trade pacts.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/06/03/go.india.outsourcing.reut/
India wants WTO pact on outsourcing
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- India wants a new world trade pact that would
prevent the United States and other countries from taking steps to ban
companies from outsourcing jobs, a top Indian official has said.
Proposals in the U.S. Congress in recent years to ban outsourcing have
sent off "alarm bells" in New Delhi, Indian Commerce Minister Kamal
Nath said.
To prevent those from becoming law, India wants the United States to
lock in current U.S. legislation allowing companies to move jobs
offshore as part of any new world trade agreement, he said.
"We are very concerned with the U.S. binding the current situation
because all these noises just keep coming," Nath told reporters after a
speech to the U.S.-India Business Council. "(The issue) needs to be
once and for all put behind us."
India's booming technology capital of Bangalore has become a global
symbol for the outsourcing phenomenon. The city of 6.5 million accounts
for at least one-third of India's $16 billion software and back-office
service outsourcing industry, which employs more than 900,000 people.
Concerns about outsourcing are based more "on emotions than economics,"
Nath said. Both countries benefit when U.S. companies can lower their
costs by tapping India's plentiful, well-educated work force, he said.
On Tuesday, the United States submitted a revised offer in World Trade
Organization service negotiations that would lock in the current access
that foreign financial services companies have in the U.S. market and
expand access for foreign firms in areas such as telecommunications,
computer and related services, higher education and transportation.
The proposal appeared to be silent on outsourcing, although a spokesman
for the U.S. Trade Representative's office was unable to immediately
confirm that.
The United States did not offer any new market access for temporary
workers from overseas -- another priority area for India in the WTO
services talks.
Nath said he had not yet seen the latest U.S. offer, but said
Washington would need to provide more short-term visas for business
travelers as part of a new world trade pact.
"I'm not talking immigration," but business visits of less than a year
to work on company projects, Nath said.
The issue is a sensitive one for the United States because many
lawmakers view work visas as a back-door immigration channel and
strongly oppose including any U.S. commitments to increase them as part
of trade pacts.
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http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/3013.asp
India plans to take US move to ban outsourcing of jobs to World Trade
Organization - India should learn to create domestic jobs and not beg
for US jobs forever
Sudhir Chadda
Jun. 3, 2005
It is unfortunate that India is again crying to get for US jobs
exported to India and displace for workers in US from stable jobs.
The Government of India, especially Mr. Kamal Nath and his oligarch
friends of Indian Business community should stop crying for help. They
have made a lot of money exploiting US and US workers. How would India
feel if another country sucks out all high paying jobs from India and
round able educated and talented people in India suffer because of loss
of jobs in massive scales?
It is a shame that India is planning to go to the World Trade
Organization to complain against US. "They should learn to stop begging
for jobs and exploit us," said an Indian expatriate American Indian in
NY.
According to media sources, alarmed by a US move to ban outsourcing of
jobs, India has sought provisions in the WTO that will check countries
from stopping companies from offshoring jobs.
"We are very concerned (with the US proposal) because all these noises
just keep coming," India's Commerce and Industry Minister Kamal Nath
told reporters on the sidelines of a US-India Business Council
conference here on Wednesday.
He said New Delhi would like to put the issue of ban on outsourcing
jobs "once and for all behind us."
Reacting to concerns in the US on offshoring American jobs to low-cost
destinations like India, Nath said: "Concerns about outsourcing are
based more on emotions than economics."
His remarks on the outsourcing industry, which employs about 900,000
people in India, came in the wake of several American states proposing
to bring legislation to ban outsourcing.
Besides Washington's silence about outsourcing in its offer before the
WTO service negotiations to allow enhanced access to foreign companies
in the US market, especially in sectors like telecommunication and IT,
has also caused concern in New Delhi.
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